I suggest you suggest your suggestions in this suggestion subforum! This subforum is for the members! Please post your own creative ideas here, not in the main board! And most of all, please remember to be nice and respectful!

Moderator: Retired Staff

Return to Member Suggestions

Diosol License

Postby ToxxicRenegadeAngel » 12/29/2012 10:42 PM

I noticed we have a licence for Lucain, Paragon and Kuhna - yet there is none for Diosol, though there are heaps of them around. Perhaps, if there were a set of licenses available for them, it would encourage the development of characters and the use of images which are currently being used as eye candy?

I also noticed that there were/are a few BBs left over that nobody bought... could this possibly be because the people who use them had bought their fair share already? Rather than reducing the number that are stocked, by introducing a set of licenses - the same kind of thing as the other ones - it would encourage more users to use their diosol and bbs, and help the bbs sell, perhaps?
"I remember who I was, who I've always been. Sometimes I forget I'm not that person any more."

User avatar
ToxxicRenegadeAngel
Well-Traveled Tamer
Well-Traveled Tamer
Pets | Items
Keystones: 2226
Donate
Joined: 05/21/2011 2:59 PM
Location: Baian Swamp
Status: Hiding in a rotting tree - shhh!

Re: Diosol License

Postby Shieba » 01/01/2013 11:42 PM

The topic was talked about at least twice before and sadly, nothing has happened in this direction yet. D8 I know I would love Diosol licenses as well, even if they were just for fun and had no reward for reaching the highest rank.

I do believe that you are right and a new talk about this is in order, though - I remember being one of the main reasons it was shot down before being that people considered Diosol breedings as breedings for "elite" members who had the RL money to spare. However, since the last discussion, BBv1s have been made considerably cheaper for a KS price, so I don't believe that point is true anymore.

I find it sad that your post sits here ignored since days now, so yeah, bumping this up in hopes of more discussion. Even if just for fun, I'd love licenses. And with new, awesome artists here now, drawing little badges might not be that hard? I dunno. =3



I know my dreams are made of you
Of you and only for you
Your ocean pulls me under
Your voice tears me asunder
Love me before the last petal falls






However cold the wind and rain
I'll be there to ease your pain
However cruel the mirrors of sin
Remember beauty is found within




*~*~*Pen*~*~*Wishlist*~*~*Imp. Docs*~*~*
User avatar
Shieba
Well-Traveled Specialist
Well-Traveled Specialist
Pets | Items
Keystones: 213
Donate
Joined: 02/10/2009 4:08 PM
Location: Suwa Foughten Field

Re: Diosol License

Postby ToxxicRenegadeAngel » 01/02/2013 11:51 AM

Thanks Shieba, I appreciate you bumping this up... I have to say, I also thought it would work well as a KS sink - and it would help to make diosol more available to other users who can't afford to buy them, since there would be more reason for people to share diosol rooms (like they currently do with lucain and paragon rooms).

I know a lot of people don't buy the BBs because they don't have two diosol, and there aren't many to rent... this might help more users interact with each other, too, and it would certainly help get diosol characters out of the pen and onto the page, so to speak - since diosol are less commonly used than other species.

I know it would be a lot of work for (I think Shrewd does the kits now?) and I do sympathise, but BB restocks aren't that common anyway, and maybe the workload could be shared with the new artists if it did become too great - which would be fair enough.

And I agree with you about it being good even if there is no A-rank prize - it would still be awesome to achieve it
"I remember who I was, who I've always been. Sometimes I forget I'm not that person any more."

User avatar
ToxxicRenegadeAngel
Well-Traveled Tamer
Well-Traveled Tamer
Pets | Items
Keystones: 2226
Donate
Joined: 05/21/2011 2:59 PM
Location: Baian Swamp
Status: Hiding in a rotting tree - shhh!

Re: Diosol License

Postby ToxxicRenegadeAngel » 01/02/2013 11:56 AM

Sorry for the double post, the comp I'm on put a cap on my post length.

I was just going to add that maybe instead of a custom diosol, the A-rank prize could be a special BBV1, which would produce two completely random kits regardless of the parents?
"I remember who I was, who I've always been. Sometimes I forget I'm not that person any more."

User avatar
ToxxicRenegadeAngel
Well-Traveled Tamer
Well-Traveled Tamer
Pets | Items
Keystones: 2226
Donate
Joined: 05/21/2011 2:59 PM
Location: Baian Swamp
Status: Hiding in a rotting tree - shhh!

Re: Diosol License

Postby Shieba » 01/02/2013 12:20 PM

Toxxic, not Shrewdie but Baal does the Diosol and that was another reason why the license was shot down: Because it IS a lot of work and Baal has more or less officially retired from the site, yet wants to continue to run the Diosol buisness. As such, there is no sharing in the near future to be expected and yeah...I suppose this is still the main reason why we don't have licenses. =/ Shrewdie really just sends the babies out.



I know my dreams are made of you
Of you and only for you
Your ocean pulls me under
Your voice tears me asunder
Love me before the last petal falls






However cold the wind and rain
I'll be there to ease your pain
However cruel the mirrors of sin
Remember beauty is found within




*~*~*Pen*~*~*Wishlist*~*~*Imp. Docs*~*~*
User avatar
Shieba
Well-Traveled Specialist
Well-Traveled Specialist
Pets | Items
Keystones: 213
Donate
Joined: 02/10/2009 4:08 PM
Location: Suwa Foughten Field

Re: Diosol License

Postby ToxxicRenegadeAngel » 01/02/2013 12:44 PM

Fair enough, my apologies - I saw the notice saying message Shrewd for diosol kits and assumed she was the one doing them. My bad.

Maybe delegating the diosol breedings to the site artists might be an idea? Baal could continue to do the customs, and it would allow her to focus on the new breedable, which i'm sure will be immensely popular once it's released.

Don't get me wrong, Baal does an amazing job with them - it's just a suggestion.
"I remember who I was, who I've always been. Sometimes I forget I'm not that person any more."

User avatar
ToxxicRenegadeAngel
Well-Traveled Tamer
Well-Traveled Tamer
Pets | Items
Keystones: 2226
Donate
Joined: 05/21/2011 2:59 PM
Location: Baian Swamp
Status: Hiding in a rotting tree - shhh!

Re: Diosol License

Postby Shieba » 01/02/2013 1:47 PM

As a rule of the thumb, if it's something that comes from the Medical Facility - Diosol Boosters and Sickles alike - it will get done by Baal.

Also, I'm not sure if Baal would be comfortable with giving the Diosol to the mods. She was hesitant to give them the Lucain and Paragon as well and for a while after her retirement, we had no breedings besides Kuhnas at all. And while I have no idea how stuff works because I am as adept with drawing as a kindergardener, I think Gon and Cain are far more "fixed" since they have set markings while one can doodle everything onto a Diosol. I could imagine them being quite a bit harder to work with, so I dunno how any side would feel about this. The mods are very busy as they are already, too, and I think this is the point where I think that if this is what it takes for getting licenses, it is indeed too high of a price to pay.

Also, I am not sure if the Breeder Boosts will remain for Diosol only, since it says in the Facility "Currently working on: Diosol". I have the sneaky suspicion that they will be for the new breedable as well and then stuff will get ugly with people fighting over them. So yeah. Licenses = Just for fun. No change otherwise, or that's what I propose.



I know my dreams are made of you
Of you and only for you
Your ocean pulls me under
Your voice tears me asunder
Love me before the last petal falls






However cold the wind and rain
I'll be there to ease your pain
However cruel the mirrors of sin
Remember beauty is found within




*~*~*Pen*~*~*Wishlist*~*~*Imp. Docs*~*~*
User avatar
Shieba
Well-Traveled Specialist
Well-Traveled Specialist
Pets | Items
Keystones: 213
Donate
Joined: 02/10/2009 4:08 PM
Location: Suwa Foughten Field

Re: Diosol License

Postby Jaykobell » 01/02/2013 2:02 PM

I have far forgotten what we'd said on that topic... I think at that time that was it, Cain and Gon couldn't breed so it felt like you had to pay money or something... But now that we have the Keys for Cain and Gon too, I don't think it would be that much of a problem. Baal doesn't even hand out licenses: we do. So it's not like they would add a workload to her. Silver or Kreepy could even draw the licenses with her input on them. I'm just saying, though. Again that was like 2 years ago and I can't remember what I ate yesterday, so I'd have to go find the topic again.

But that's not primarily why I was posting. First, no, I don't do Diosol kits, and neither do any of the other Staff members. They are solely Baal's responsibility. The only thing I do is send the kits and Draiz records the boosters sold/bought.

Each species has a different way of breeding. Kuhnas breed according to fixed genetics, meaning that breeding Calamikuhna x Preluhna will always result in the following: Preluhna, Calamikuhna, Revelate Kuhna, and Darkflame Kuhna. No matter how often you breed that pair, you will never obtain anything beyond those species (sans the Rare Kuhnas that appear at random). The babies are all pre-drawn, for the exception of the Elixir of Fertility, to which we actually make custom babies like we do Cain and Gon.

Cain and Gon are bred according to the parents. In theory, you can consider the parent breeders are color palettes for the babies, meaning that even marking colors can become base colors, two colors can mix to become a new one, etc. If you breed a red and blue parent, you'll end up with a purple baby or some appearance of purple on a marking. If the parents have black and/or white, we can also use these to darken or lighten the other colors, respectively. They are very versatile in terms of colors. Every Mod also has a different way of doing babies. I don't know for the others, but I do try to make babies look genetically-possible from the parents, so you won't get that tiny Checkered color as a base from me. Exceptions apply, but that's mostly how I work.

Diosols are bred by overlays. Meaning that Baal will basically overlay the two pictures together in PS and then start erasing the top bunny to reveal colors and markings from the bottom one. It's not a breeding method any of us (or I, anyway) has ever tried, since only Diosols breed this way. So if you breed bunnies that look very much alike, you'll probably end up with special markings or little quirks since Baal plays more with them. A v2 is the same concept, except she goes a little further sometimes with babies having things like leopard spots.

This is how breedables are bred (also when a man and a woman love each other very much [or sometimes a man and a man and a woman and a woman]).
User avatar
Jaykobell
Retired Staff
Retired Staff
Pets | Items
Keystones: 4511
Donate
Joined: 09/04/2007 12:33 AM
Status: avatar by sleepysparrow!

Re: Diosol License

Postby ToxxicRenegadeAngel » 01/02/2013 2:04 PM

Fair enough, I can agree with that...
"I remember who I was, who I've always been. Sometimes I forget I'm not that person any more."

User avatar
ToxxicRenegadeAngel
Well-Traveled Tamer
Well-Traveled Tamer
Pets | Items
Keystones: 2226
Donate
Joined: 05/21/2011 2:59 PM
Location: Baian Swamp
Status: Hiding in a rotting tree - shhh!


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests