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Breeding Facility Wishing Well

Postby Shieba » 01/08/2015 1:35 AM

So I just got another idea. =|; I get all my ideas at 6am when I'm super-tired, it seems.

I'm not...sure what people and especially the staff think of this. But Shrewdie just said in my other suggestion topic that she doesn't like doing Chaos Draught litters since she doesn't know then what we want, so I wondered... can we maybe make something which would at least let the staff know what we are looking for in a breeding? Maybe something like that:

"In the entrace hall of the Breeding Facility is an indoor fountain. Sometimes, the couples coming to this place throw a few Keystones into the water, praying for their offspring to become healthy and beautiful."


How it would work:
- You pay a small KS sum (10-15KS or so?) on top of the normal breeding room fee.

- You can then state in the first post of your breeding one thing you definitely hope to get from the breeding. So things like "I really want one baby to have a blue body color!" "I really hope for a wing gradient!" "I totally would love it if a Lucain pup would get a surprise minimark!" "I really don't want only boys or only girls, but at least one female would be so nice because my Paragon want a daughter!" "I so hope that out of all the minimarks on my Cain, the Mudpaw will end up on a baby for sure!" "With so many pets in the pen having Celestial, the parents wish that at least one of their babies is more unique than the rest of the family and that marking doesn't get passed on."

- You cannot wish for anything that a potion could do (so no wishing for all-female litters, for example), things that cannot normally happen in a breeding (like a specific marking appearing that neither parent has) and for rare things like albinos.

- No wishes which would affect all babies (so no "I wish all my babies would get Ancient!") since the staff might then run out of ideas in huge litters or litters with limited color options.

- As this is a wishing well, there is no guarantee that your wish will come true. It's a way to tell whoever does your breeding what you hope for, not to demand it, so that no one of the staff feels ordered around or limited in their creativity.

It's basically something I thought would be nice for plot breedings where you just pray that you will get the baby with that certain marking or wing-type for your plot. I know I had to breed couples more than once because I needed a certain marking or a combination of boys and girls for my plot. And we can't have potions for everything and the staff always seems to want to please us, so I found the thought kinda nice. However, I also understand that breedings are meant to be somewhat random... so I'm not sure if this idea is something people would like to see.



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Re: Breeding Facility Wishing Well

Postby Kitsumi » 01/08/2015 1:56 AM

This is...quite an interesting idea. I certainly would be interested in something like this. I know that a lot of people have breeding projects or even just one or two plot characters that they would like to actually breed from a specific parent. So I know that this could be something really helpful.

My only concern is that people might become too demanding or get upset when they don't get the perfect offspring after making a wish. Of course, we seem to have a pretty mature and reasonable community of players here, and it does seem like you put thought into that too when you listed some of the restrictions for what you could/couldn't wish for.

I'm interested to see what some of the staff would think, though. If they felt like it might limit their ability to create unique litters or something,it's probably not something that would be a good idea. But since it would be a wishing well type thing, and it's always optional...maybe it would even be useful to the artist? If they knew some of what our expectations were during certain breedings, it might make things easier for them.

I suck at explaining my opinions, so this probably makes no sense whatsoever xD But pretty much in short: I like this idea, as long as the proper restrictions were put in place and the staff doesn't feel it would become a hindrance to them. I would say that the ks price might be raised a tad bit - but since nothing is guaranteed by making a wish, setting too high of a price probably wouldn't be a good idea since no one wants to pay that much for the possibility of something good happening.

(I'll shut up now, because it's almost 1 am and I'm probably just rambling)


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Re: Breeding Facility Wishing Well

Postby Shieba » 01/08/2015 2:09 AM

I fully agree that I am afraid that the staff might feel kind of obligated to fulfill the wishes so that no one will complain about wasting KS, which is my main concern as well. =/ Hence why I'm unsure about the whole thing and why I think that it's mainly staff input needed here.

At any rate, I added to the first post that wishing for anything that can't happen in a normal breeding shouldn't be allowed, so that you can't make a specific marking neither Gon has appear out of nowhere or stuff like that. Just to make sure that everyone gets that this is not to undermine breeding mechanics in any way or form.



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I'll be there to ease your pain
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Remember beauty is found within




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Re: Breeding Facility Wishing Well

Postby GrayGriffin » 01/08/2015 4:56 AM

Hm...for something like this, I actually wonder if paying KS would be needed. Since knowing what users want is probably really useful for staff as well, maybe it could just be a short suggestion you add to the start of your breeding on what you're looking for.
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Re: Breeding Facility Wishing Well

Postby ToxicShadow » 01/08/2015 12:17 PM

I think this was sort of just answered or remedied with the potion Kyrit just released. However, if something like this was implemented, I would think that it would be best left free, just like the actual wishing well. That way, no one could even potentially complain about not receiving anything after paying.

If it needed to be limited in some way, then maybe only so many wishes could be granted per user a month? I suggest month, since well already on a month track for breedings. Since we can breed up to three times a month with slots, not taking keys into account, I would say having one or two wishes granted would be good.
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