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Potential Potion Permutation

Postby Kyrit » 06/09/2016 12:11 PM

Permutation probably isn't quite the right word, but hey. I wanted the alliteration.

Anyways, back when Huntsman's Hall's idea was conceived, I told myself if it seemed to go over decently I might change potions, specifically the ones that are still on a stock based system, to use the same sort of system as the custom tokens are on; buy x many per year. This would mean users wouldn't have to worry about stalking for restocks or worry about not making it in time to snag one of the potions. It'd hopefully make the fancier potions more available, since it would be up to the users when to buy them and when to use them.

The only reason I've hesitated to make this change quite yet (which is also why it's been a good while since there's been a restock) is that I don't know where to make that cut-off. EoFs mean a lot of work for the staff, particularly depending on which Kuhnas are being bred and who has the PSDs for them. Instead of just going with what little debating the staff has done so far, I figured I'd open the debate to everyone.

The current proposed numbers are from 2-3. 2 would mean each user would be able to potentially partake in 4 EoF breedings per year, if the potions are shared instead of used for self breedings. 3 would mean 6.

What are your thoughts? In truth, we'll never know how viable any of this is until it's put in to practice and tested, but never hurts to put thought in to it first. And if it ends up not working we'll just lower or raise the number in due time, based on if it's been working or not.
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Re: Potential Potion Permutation

Postby zapdragon555 » 06/09/2016 1:21 PM

Personally I think that 2 EoF potions per user per year (and thus potentially 4 breedings) makes a lot of sense to me! Six months is a long time for sure, and I feel like that's a fair number. So is 3, which would be one every four months, so I'm really good with either idea. I think it's a nice idea for users who can't get on when potions restock, or don't have time to stalk it and wait for it. ovo



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Re: Potential Potion Permutation

Postby Desrian » 06/09/2016 8:57 PM

I think that unless its changed to can only "own" or "use" so many, some people are just going to hoard or overpay for certain potions and the same people will own them/use them. Just my 2 cents.






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Postby Kyrit » 06/09/2016 10:08 PM

The only problem with "own" is that a user can easily use two EoFs per month, making sure they never own more than one or two. The problem with "use" is that people would be able to buy as many as they want. Granted yes, they can't use them, but they'd be able to buy any amount they want.

I don't particularly mind people hoarding the potions they buy. It's their own choice if they decide not to use them, but by giving users the option of buying a certain limited amount per year you guarantee that each person can do the same number of custom breedings per year, so long as they choose to.

If we want to prevent people from buying them only to try to resell them for a large sum, the easiest way is to make them non-tradable, much like the gift custom tokens. Granted, I don't really see it becoming a problem, since people haven't been trying to do the same with the non-gift custom tokens. Definitely something we can do if it does seem to become a problem though.
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Re: Potential Potion Permutation

Postby ToxxicRenegadeAngel » 06/09/2016 10:32 PM

I think this is a great idea, particularly as users will be limited by how many potions they can actually afford to buy anyway. People who would use them won't be able to overuse them, and those that don't won't really be affected anyway. It'll save a lot of worry over potion restocks, that's for sure.

I think 2 EoFs would be an ok compromise between the staff workload and the userbase; not overloading, but users can still get custom kuhna babs from time to time. I also don't really think it would matter whether they were tradeable or not, since the number of custom breedings would be the same even if (and especially if) a single user bought everyone else's potions off of them - we are only allowed 2 breedings per month, after all; and it is up to users whether they pay lots of KS for them.

So yes, I am mightily in favour of this xD
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Re: Potential Potion Permutation

Postby Sarah » 06/09/2016 10:35 PM

I really like the idea of this, and fully support whatever decision is made. I just wanted to say that I'd be thrilled if the EoF number was only one per year because before this thread I legitimately thought I would only even do a custom kuhna breeding once I got my kuhna rank A license.
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Re: Potential Potion Permutation

Postby MillietheWarrior » 06/09/2016 11:11 PM

I would be in favor of two a year, yes. You can always make it one a year if it becomes a hassle. It sucks missing the few potions that get thrown out there. But yeah, I would totally be in favor of that.

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Postby Kyrit » 06/12/2016 9:45 PM

I'm happy to see that the general consensus is that two would be a decent starting number and that people would overall be happy for this change. =D I think so long as no one has any major concerns that need addressing, within the next few days we can make this happen. =) I think to start off we'll go with just the restriction that you can only buy two per year, and if it seems that people start buying them only to sell for profit or anything like that, we'll move from there with any other potential restrictions.

Most important part is, if it's broke, we'll fix it. =) I mean, look at how many times it took us before we reached a good breeding system.
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Re: Potential Potion Permutation

Postby zapdragon555 » 06/13/2016 1:49 AM

Good attitude!! This will be a cool trial period. C: Can't wait!



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