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Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby Baconwizard » 11/16/2014 9:27 PM

Recently there has been discussion about expanding the lore behind Evelon, and this is the place where we can do that! This is the thread where we can bounce ideas around and talk about our different theories about how Evelon and the different areas and cultures came to be. We can also ask questions of the mods, since they have a little more information on the histories and humanoid types. So... yes! World building, hooray!
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Re: Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby Azura Rayume » 11/16/2014 10:23 PM

Why did Thinktanke (he made the Dwellers, right? I'm not remembering wrong?) make sentient food instead of, like, darkness plants? Maybe Chaos are like lizards and have to have moving food to want it? I dunno. Seems odd to give food intelligence, especially since they aren't very cooperative with the idea of being food.



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Postby Kyrit » 11/17/2014 12:44 AM

The first Dweller to come to existence was created by Think, yeah. They are created from the negative emotions of humans though, which is probably why they take on a human form. For a Dweller to exist though, they don't have to be made by Think. He can make them, but the bit of information on Dwellers found in this document implies that he isn't needed for them.

As a little side fact, Baal once told me that for every Dweller born a Seraphim is born as well. There was almost a plot Moof and I were going to do that involved a Dweller and Seraph that were the opposite side of one another. Never ended up happening, but yeah. Seraphim are born of positive human emotion, Dwellers from negative. Thus probably why they both look humanoid.

As for Chaos needing moving food, I doubt that's the case. Chaos that are actually able to get their hands on Dwellers (they're actually a bit hard to get, who would have thought?) can eat enough so their hunger isn't driving them any longer and salt the leftovers to preserve them, just as we humans have done for livestock for ages.
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Re: Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby crow » 11/17/2014 12:47 AM

@Kyrit: That bit about the two being two sides of the same coin is fascinating. Would the Dweller and Seraphim who were created at the same time have some sort of special bond, then? Or would they just happen to share a birthday, as it was?
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Postby Kyrit » 11/17/2014 1:00 AM

Sadly, I don't remember too well. They are both at the very least made from the same person's feelings. I could probably ask Baal again at some point, which I would like to do honestly just to make a set of characters revolving around that idea again.
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Postby Kyrit » 11/17/2014 1:58 AM

Okay. So this probably doesn't exactly count as lore, but I've finally finished typing out a historical story that Baal told us about back in 2012.

Many years after the Goddess Tear had been created, the Gods were in dismay over the chaotic state of the lands below. The Goddess Yepha made an angel to sort out the discord across the lands. This angel, Nerastiel, was sent forth with a spool of thread made from the night with which she was to tie every human together. As she began to twine the thread around the wrist of humans they began to understand one another, hearing one another's thoughts and understanding their feelings. Knowing that she is doing something great for the humans and Gods alike, Nerastiel spent a week focusing on nothing but her job before she became exhausted.

In a clearing the the Roraldi Forest, she lied down on a log and began to consider that perhaps the task she had been given was too great for one seraph alone to handle. During this time, a man with golden eyes presented himself to her, telling her his name was Gendraggutte and that he was a Chaos. He then presented to her his true form, a Chaos with brilliantly golden colored scales. As the two of them talked, Gendraggutte told Nerastiel that he was envious of her. While she was able to stop the fighting between humans and bring harmony, he brought nothing but discord.

He offered to help her on her quest, and eventually Nerastiel accepted it despite the stigma surrounding his species. Together the two of them were able to get double the amount of work done, and it took them about a year to tie most of the humans together. The angel began to feel affected by the feelings humans expressed, as she started to know love. After admitting that she might be falling for Gendraggutte, he asked if it were even possible for a Seraph to love. To this she responded that even she was not sure.

After a few more weeks together, other Chaos began to take notice of Gendraggutte helping out and courting a Seraph. He was ridiculed by his own kind, and before long they began to try to harm him. Worried for the woman he'd fallen for, he tried to tell her it was too dangerous for the two of them to travel together any longer. She chose not to leave him though, and the two continued to work together.

As Nerastiel unraveled the last of the spool or thread, she found that it was attached to her sleeve. With a smile, she told herself, "I suppose I'll just buy myself a new blouse made of gold to celebrate our love." Each time she reached the end of the spool though she found it attached to her clothing until one day she found the thread attached to her finger. While she didn't want to alarm him, eventually the she told Gendraggutte.

He tried to get her to stop her quest, telling her he didn't approve of it if it would eventually destroy who she was. She told him that, as it was her calling, she had to do it. He would wake the next morning to find she was gone, having left to continue her task on her own. After some time to gather himself together, the man set off following the string in order to look for her. The only way to find her for sure though would be to find the beginning and end of the thread.

This led to ten years of cutting the ties between humans, his claws effortlessly breaking the bonds created by Yepha's string. During his search other Chaos began to notice that the man could cut his string and relentlessly hunted him down as well, eventually killing him and melting his scales down to makes scissors to cut the string on their own. These Chaos began to cause discord wherever they went, starting many wars.

Nowdays, once every year the people of Aldrect hold a festival devoted to the "Golden String," with the misconception that the thread and gold were one.
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Re: Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby Azura Rayume » 11/17/2014 2:08 AM

Okay, I know the Chaos have name suffixes that tell something about them, but I remember neither what they are nor what they mean. I think they're on my old computer that doesn't start anymore. It'd be super cool to know what those are again because having a "proper" name for a Chaos character is something I would like to be able to do.



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Re: Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby Kyrit » 11/17/2014 2:46 AM

I don't have my file on hand that has them (it's on my external and getting up to get that would wake a certain cat), but I'll be happy to post that some time if someone doesn't beat me to it. Not all Chaos use that naming scheme though (For example, I've seen Chaos with names such as Argeir, Sobis, and Ishin), so you don't have to be afraid of giving them a normal name if you'd like. It's more specifically the Original Thought group that uses that naming scheme. Hierarchy is mostly Lord Baal children, and he seems to let them be named anything that someone happens to think of at the time (Cross is an object, LB. Not a name for your kid. =| ) And the Outcasts are, well, outcasts. No one's gonna tell them how to name their kids.

I can at the very least say off the top of my head that the suffix "-utte" (as seen in Gendraggutte above) is used for those typically banished from a clan or at least looked down upon as betrayers. These suffixes can be changed depending on your current position of power/within your clan.
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Re: Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby Kyrit » 11/26/2014 1:22 AM

Double-post time. I've unearthed my Chaos suffix file.

-Tharte = Strongest (Ruler/Leader/True 2nd Command)

-Tankke = 2nd Strongest (Second-in-commands) Strong

-Natte = High Moderate

-Dantte = Moderate

-Nakke = Low Moderate

-Sankke = Weakest

-Agge = Unpredictable (rare)

Bad Chaos Suffixes!

-Nekke = High Scavenger

-Utte = Betrayer

-Nogge = Unseeable, Ugly

-Undde = Frail, Weak, Coward

-Engge = Disgusting (morally)


I also have some various concept sketches of the Golden Chaos for any interested.
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A little bit of information on Chaos Bonded
10:11 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: For every bond, you lose something
10:11 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: Or you get cursed
10:11 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: There's different effects, they're unlimited and imposible to predict
10:11 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: Even the Chaos won't know what'll happen
10:11 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: So it's a gamble for them too.
10:11 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: If they accidentally break their 'host'
10:11 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: 8"U
10:12 PM - Draiz: Ooooh
10:12 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: Like Telfair's bond made him OCD to the max and heartless
10:12 PM - Draiz: XD
10:12 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: He couldn't love the person he sold himself to save
10:12 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: C:
10:12 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: Other's can lose a sense
10:13 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: Or suffer horribly bad luck
10:13 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: Or end up bloodlusting
10:13 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: Or be unable to see certain colors
10:13 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: Orrrrrr C: Hrm
10:13 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: Break everything they touch
10:13 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: The gods target bonded humans too
10:13 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: Like bad
10:13 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: Because they're an abomination
10:13 PM - [Ω] DerrDoktor: And they can't be saved. C:

I also once verified with Baal that Seraphim can bond to a Chaos as well when I was working on making a character.

I also have information on a now extinct human group somewhere, though it will take some digging to find. Selkat'aris is related to that group of people. I'm currently not finding the file where that info is though, which worries me a bit. But yeah. There's a bit more info for people.


Edit;
Found the little history lesson one of my characters, Faye was given at one point.

Ah... A little history lesson they never teach, hmm? Most of it is all rumor and legend up on Topside anyway. *Topside of course, being the human world. It was their sort of term for it down here. He kept walking with his arms folded behind him.* The Vuerei were the predecessors of modern man, a human race both ancient... and powerful. They were the first to find the Maiden's Tear, if you've ever heard that one, and artifact said to be dropped directly from the Goddess herself. They used the tear to gain knowledge of the heavens and used it to their own purposes. Long story short, there grew factions of men that separated from the Vuerei, afraid of the Tear's power, but the Vuerei chose to exploit it and gain the power of the heavenly Sigils, the words of creation, action, everything that /is/. Eventually, they learned to change the Sigils to their own purposes, fighting off Chaos that were rampant those days. And no, the heavens didn't really appreciate their... misuse of the knowledge. Wars ensued over power and possession of the Tear and such. *He waggled one hand.* Petty history lore, of course, as it goes. Apparently, they were so good at changing the sigils to fight off the Chaos, that even the Heavens wanted to relearn all that the Tear taught them, so that they could fight the Chaos properly.


Selkat'aris's species was basically to the Vuerei like dogs are to us. They were companions, but they also did labor tasks. When the species was going out due to all the wars going on, Zu'hai took her, one of the last of her species, under his wing.
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Re: Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby Kodai » 12/03/2014 8:47 PM

Tiny bit more on the Vuerei:
"As far as removing it, I don't think there's much in the way that I can do for that... Vuerei fighters thought too highly of themselves and formatted the sigils so that they could never be removed once acquired, figuring that they would never die in battle if they always had them."

Vuera'rune (Heavenly Peoples)
Vuera'kein (Peoples of Prediction)


And some stuff about the origin of the Hunters (edited for relevance):
Baal        thinks Leader had a nice, glorious pride once. 83
Baal>        And then it went allll downhill!
Kodai>        Were they always crystal lions? o3o
Baal>        No, no they weren't. :3
Baal>        They were only part crystal. :3
Baal>        They had flesh and everything. :3
Kodai>        Is that why they can talk in human? o3o
Baal>        But! As they were a sentient race and could think for themselves, greed and envy tore them apart, and soon the crystal engulfed them.
Baal>        Yush yush.
Kodai>        And then Xai used his soul-sapping circle on them?
Baal>        On most of them yes. BUT! Leader (who's real name was stripped from him by Xai), was still kind and thoughtful. He waned to save his race and his family (he had wife and kids!) by sacrificing his eternal loyalty to Xai.
Baal>        Once the seal had been placed upon him, Xai maniacally used him to enslave the rest of the Hunters.
Baal>        8D
And and! Just because Xai despised love and such, made the Leader kill his own family, with the help of Kree's brainwashing.
Baal>        The rest were either killed and enslaved, thus no flesh Hunters can be found in existence.

Maybe )this is theoretical), the Hunters have.... enemies of some sort. o3o Some other cave Dwellers, maybe a groupd of intelligent Akail or what have you...
SO Leader, being all nice and seksi as he is, makes a decision to make get some protection for his people and does teh Xai deal, servitude for saftey right?
SoooooOoo~ Xai can't REALLY touch them because of Yepha's Tear safeguard, so Xai tries and fails to manipulate them. He wants 'total' control and whanot but he can't get it, so he waits. o3o
And then along comes an advisor or whatever of the Leader's (maybe even a sibling or family of some sort?) who takes the Tear to give to Xai in exchange for... I dunno.... everlasting life or sommat. o3o
And then that's how the wholse city goes down. Xai can get into the city now and turns them into crystal ones.

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Re: Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby Kyrit » 05/07/2017 10:50 PM

As one of the current projects I'm undertaking when I've got a little time here and there to sit and think/type, I'm working on typing up information on known Evelonian holidays. Since I'm doing that though, I figured it would be as good of a time as any to bring this old thread back to the grave and ask what users are interested in learning about, if they're interested at all. I personally quite enjoy typing up what lore I know/pestering Baal to learn more so I can spread the lore, but I also feel like it'd be wasting my time if it's something I knew people didn't want.

If it does ever get to the point where we've got quite a few different topics covered though, I'd also see if everyone would like a forum/subforum dedicated to lore snippets.
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Re: Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby Mojave » 05/25/2017 7:45 AM

I'd probably skim over the lore if it was posted. Honestly though, I've gotten so used to making stuff up on the fly, I don't know if I would tie any of my chars to it. I mean, there's always the chance that the story will be something I wanna be a part of, I just wouldn't know unless I started reading it. C:
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Re: Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby Sarah » 05/25/2017 2:25 PM

I'd love to read more lore about Evelon. Most of my own lore was created because I didn't feel like there was enough information around to really tie my characters into the world. Maybe some of this is already out there, but I'd love to learn more about the gods and how they came to be and how they created Evelon. Did they create all of the creatures? How do they feel about so many otherworldly beings making a home in Evelon, do they even know? Are the gods of Evelon tolerant of the other gods that show up?
Whats up with the Chaos? They seem to be a big threat, but not a lot is written about how or why it seems. They have another plane of existence? and they can warp regular Evelon? How does that work? Do they hate Evelon, or is it just an inherent part of their being?
How many planets are in the star system? Does Evelon have only one sun? How many moons does Evelon have, and what do they look like from Evelon? What are Evelons major constellations, and the stories behind how they came to be? Do they share the same constellations as Earth?
How did they come up with Key Stones for currency? How does it work? Are the stones specious or just a representation of wealth? Are Goddess Tears finite since they are believed to be lesser tears cried by Yepha? Why did they decide that her alleged tears should be currency?

Actually anything, even if its lore that doesn't answer those questions, I would be so happy to learn.
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Re: Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby Silver » 05/25/2017 8:06 PM

I'm also really interested in reading more lore!

Personally, I'm more interested in the lands and creatures than anything. I want to know what this world and it's people are like. How the creatures influence the world around them. Stuff like that? Oh, and a little bit interested in magic! How does magic work here on Evelon? Is it blessings, from a physical source, in the air for anyone to grab and learn from? I'd like to know what the official lore is so I can play with it for my own plots.

I'm less interested in gods and religion and stuff, because that's not a thing I really introduce into my roleplays in any significant way.

Pre-emptive apology if these topics have already been covered. It's been a while since I've done any reading on it and I mostly skimmed this thread.



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Re: Evelon Lore Theories & Discussion

Postby RiDragon » 05/25/2017 9:17 PM

As a big biology nerd, I'd love to know how the creatures (pets I guess) interact with each other, how they evolved into what they are, how their social hierarchies are like, their intelligence levels, ect.

I'd also be interested in the pet training aspect of it.  Are pet trainers common?  Do you have to be special to form bonds with the magical creatures of Evelon?  Are pet trainers seen as powerful heros or as dangerous outcasts?  Are these views different depending on where you go?  How does magic come into this?  Is magic innate or do only certain people possess powers?  Are the pets nothing but mere tools or is there a mental and/or magical connection trainers make with their pets?  Are pets human level intelligence?  Or are they like Pokemon where they kinda have higher intelligence but but still need their humans for guidance?   Stuff like that.  0:



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