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* Gathering New Members

Postby Kyrit » 05/28/2011 7:00 PM

Let's face it. We don't get many new members that actually stay on Evelon. Really I wonder how those new members even come to be by now, because it's not like we actually advertise or anything. We've just relied on members finding us through the urls of pets thrown here and there on the profiles of users on other sites.

What do you guys think we could do to advertise and entice new members? The only thing I can personally think of that does not require us paying for advertising would be to have users make banners and stuff for signatures on other sites. Sooo, I'm gathering ideas? XD You can even post ideas of how to keep new members once they've actually joined up. What do you think would make someone stay on the site better after first joining? Evelon can only survive if we get new members from time to time.
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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby Shieba » 05/28/2011 7:39 PM

I think there are two kinds of people joining - those who join for the art because they love it and those who join for RPing.

When I think back, I joined here because I fell in love with the Fellox, but then my RL got busy and because I couldn't order customs at that time, I kinda pushed Evelon back to "later" and forgot all about it for a few months until I came back and then custom orders were open and I kinda stayed forever.

I think it's easier to keep new members when there is stuff going on, like events. Not only do they give you something to do, it's also easier to get to know others if there's an event thread in the G&C section and people talk about it there. I remember being kinda lost when I joined - sure, some people said "Hi" in the Hello-topic I made, but that didn't really give me a start. I didn't really RP at all during my first year here thanks to me not knowing anyone well enough.

With "events", I don't only mean big stuff like Easter/Halloween/Christmas. For example, we had that contest where we guessed parts of pets for Mysterious Eggs. That was fun. Or really, we haven't had breeding rooms in quite some time now. Since even new members can get some free Kuhnas and Kuhnas don't require that much work for you mod guys since they aren't "customs", maybe more Kuhna breeding rooms would help?

I also can say that in the beginning, all the work I had to do scared me a bit and that comes from me, who loves stats. But there was soooo much to do. Create a pen. Select traits. Calculate stats. Choose elements. And back then, we had far less traits for every pet (I think it was five passive and four battle traits or something). I felt I had to read so much stuff before I could really start RPing. I didn't mind because I love such stuff, but I can imagine that it's intimidating for newbies. I can't really think of a way to shorten this, though...

At any rate, I always advertise Evelon in my writing forum by spamming my new customs there, but the people there are no RPers, sadly. D8



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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby Freezair » 05/28/2011 8:26 PM

I think turning off staff account activation might help. Have we had any truly "spammy" looking members signing up for a while? I know that having to wait to get my account activated by someone on staff tends to drive me away from a site. And even if we did, there are other, less intrusive methods for dealing with spam.

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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby HunnyBun » 05/28/2011 10:54 PM

I have no big ideas, cause I found this place by chance when I stumbled on a pet link on Subeta way back when and though the art was awesome. But I have a slight idea: Some of use users on her have a DA (deviantart) and maybe those who do could do a piece of art or story that advertises Evelon with a link? I know I have a few followers that would most likely take a peek. Maybe others have some that would stop by? o3o -throws idea into the air-


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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby Chayden » 05/29/2011 12:21 AM

-pokes HUN's idea-
As far as that goes, we could have some kind of reward for referrals? As in, if you put X advertisement in Y spot on Z site and keep it there, you get something, and then if you're cited specifically by a newbie as having referred them, you get another something. Like KS. Enough for the advertising to be worth it, but not enough to devalue KS.
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I'm all for banners in signatures. Or linked avatars, or something like that. Or periodical "hey-go-look-at-this-site" posts.
...Or a facebook page. Or tumblr. Or twitter account.
Just keep it updated with the start and finish of things like breeding room slots/seasons, new releases and events and you're all set. c:
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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby Krystalolive » 05/29/2011 2:52 PM

Well, I'm sure some people on here have a Subeta account and Subeta now has billboards that show up at the top of the screen for advertising things. I've seen lots of billboards for other rp sites, so maybe someone on here who has some artist abilities could make an awesome billboard. I know they cost Cash Shop credits, but maybe we can pool some together to get one. The cheapest is only 100 CSC, which is about a US dollar, and I have that much from winning a contest once. And people are always selling them for sP, the free website money, for a couple of million. And we could do the same thing and pool that together, and get one that way.
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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby ToxicShadow » 05/29/2011 7:56 PM

I think that a fairly decent way to get new members is to make affiliates with similar websites, basically exchanging links or mini banners that are displayed somewhere on both websites. This could be roleplay sites, adoptable sites, both, or whatever sites, really.
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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby HunnyBun » 05/30/2011 12:47 AM

-pokes in again-
Subeta also has it that: If a registered user gets other to join (by showing them the site) and those new people say that the user told them of the site, then they get points that they can then use to get special items. Maybe, and this is just me brainstorming, we could do something like that? Where if we refer others here we can then get points to later use to get things? o3o -brick'd-


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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby Azura Rayume » 05/30/2011 11:45 AM

I hate to crash this party, guys, but GETTING people is really only half the battle. I mean, I see new names at the bottom of my screen as "Our newest member," but I rarely if ever see that person post. What I'm getting at is we don't just need ways of acquiring new members, but ways of keeping them also.

I remember being slightly intimidated by everything- the stats mainly- and struggling to keep up with everything for the first few months I was on here. Actually, this place didn't really feel like home until I started making friends like Millie, Middy, Kabuto, Silv, and the rest of those people I bother constantly. Maybe we could have a kind of "mentor" program, where older members take the newbies under their wing: take them out to places like Terrace or Nabias for just fun, simple RPs, help out with stats and traits, and what have you. So that the new people know there are some people that they can always go to for help and that not everyone who is uber literate on here will kill them for only having a couple paragraphs as a response (which was one thing I was really afraid of). I know we have the help board for certain things like stats help, but I always found that to be a bit... well... intimidating as well, mainly because I never wanted to ask a question that someone else had and look stupid.



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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby Chayden » 05/30/2011 12:12 PM

Yeah, Azura! Brilliant!
It could have its own little subforum so that it would be easy for the newbies to find~
I mean, I wasn't afraid to start posting myself, but I know that it can be really hard for some people to put themselves out there. I, for one, would be ALL OVER the newbie board~! I like introducing people. :3
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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby Freezair » 05/30/2011 12:41 PM

@Azura: Moofius and I have been trying to start one of those ourselves for months. We even did our planning in RP form! But Moof is often busy these days, though it's still something I'd like to do....

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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby Azura Rayume » 05/30/2011 1:33 PM

@Freezy: Well, maybe you can get more help for you guys with the idea in here? I didn't know that anyone had actually tried to do anything like that before. If figured you would be the one who would come up with something like that, but I hadn't actually seen anything around the forums about it.



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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby Shieba » 05/30/2011 2:30 PM

This suggestion had actually been made a looong time ago once already in the G&C section. I tried to find it since I think Moof and Freezy were the ones fully behind it even back then, but I can't spot it right now. D8



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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby Moofius » 05/30/2011 3:06 PM

Guh, I know. We should drop the RP thing and sketch it out again from scratch. I don't know where my notes went. ;^; Lost in all of the files of my computer I guess? ;^;

And sorry I'm so AWOL too. ;D;

I know that when I first joined I was RETARDED (Srsly, I RPed in my hello thread, gaiz. My hello thread.) and I was really freaked out, but I met Senay and Teka and we RPed and people gave me a few pets to start out with (Berry Kuhna FTW? Yes, yes.) I was hooked because I was a part of the community. But when I first joined I actually lurked for awhile.

So yeah, no, I'd love to do this and get it started. It's just a lot of hard work. It would need to be really organized and kept up-to-date a lot. But yeah, the RP has some of our ideas, maybe a lot. We should go through that and... pick that up, dust it off and finish the rules and outlines we had going and get them into the suggestion board? Feed back would be good to have on it, and I think it might make the process easier and faster. What do you think, Freezy?
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Re: * Gathering New Members

Postby Freezair » 05/30/2011 4:00 PM

Yesss, we must find that thread. But the search feature still isn't back, gah. But we could post some of our idea here for sure, and get some more feedback. :D

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I'm so brave (too bad I'm a baby).
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I'm so green (it's really amazing).
I'm so clean (too bad I can't get all the dirt off of me)!
I'm so sane (It's driving me crazy)!
It's so strange
I can't believe I'm falling for the first time!

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