[Kodai]

A separate thread, so as not to drown the Trait Suggestion thread. o uo
OKAY SO. First, a list of the Traits we're looking at.

Restricted Traits:
Elemental
Neurotoxin
Virulent Poison
Wingstorm
Pollen Spores
Sonic Waves
Normal
Arterial Strike
Augment Healing
Avoidance
Balanced
Carapace Shield
Chameleon Skin
Constrict
Damaging Strike
Deadly Precision
Diehard
Double-Edge
Elemental Swap
Final Blow
Go Ethereal
Greater Healing Touch
Healer's Prayer
Horrific Wail
Huff and Puff
Incapacitate
Neutralize Elements
Opportune Sneak Attack
Power Drain
Powerful Strike
Resist Death
Sharp Hearing
Snatch
Stone Blood
Tail Sweep
Weaken

Shrine Traits:
Berserker
Crush
Damage Substitute
Death Throes
Elusive Foe
Foxhole
Hyper Healing
Snatch and Snap
Staggering Strike
Stubborn Ferocity

Now, the list of what pets have these as Racial Traits (* are Shrine):
Ttee - Chameleon Skin
Angriff Kirund - Stubborn Ferocity*
Fungal Rollaby - Pollen Spores
Kirund - Stubborn Ferocity*
Pallid Rollaby - Elusive Foe*
Psychedelic Snatcher - Pollen Spores
Thorn Thief - Pollen Spores
Wood Rogue - Pollen Spores
Bandol - Resist Death
Bilby Rollaby - Sharp Hearing
Annelidrak - Carapace Shield
Canopy Garudor - Wingstorm
Carolwockee - Sharp Hearing
Chocomallow Teigu - Elusive Foe*
Cider Teigu - Elusive Foe
Coatl Battleheard - Wingstorm
Corbine - Resist Death
Day Seraphent - Constrict, Wingstorm
Demon Kalamarei - Foxhole*
Dire Fenref - Diehard
Dori Kuni - Foxhole*
Emowockee - Sharp Hearing
Falleef - Elusive Foe*
Figher Werebetta - Arterial Strike
Fowlbine - Resist Death
Goldclaw Werebetta - Arterial Strike
Grappler Werebetta - Stubborn Ferocity*
Gum Teigu - Elusive Foe*
Harvest Leumoo - Stubborn Ferocity*
Holeef - Elusive Foe
Horror Frightmare - Damaging Strike
Jade Beetanke - Carapace Shield
Kawaida Batti - Keen Hearing
Leumoo - Stubborn Ferocity*
Lunafly - Elusive Foe, Sonic Waves
Maat Battleheart - Wingstorm
Malphas - Constrict
Marbled Terratops - Crush*, Stubborn Ferocity*
Marrow Corbine - Resist Death
Mini Fenref - Diehard
Mint Teigu - Elusive Foe
Mirage Fellox - Chameleon Skin
Misprint Corbine - Resist Death
Neowockee - Sharp Hearing
Neuleef - Elusive Foe*
Night Seraphent - Constrict, Wingstorm
Palowockee - Sharp Hearing
Peppermint Teigu - Elusive Foe
Polar Fenref - Diehard
Present Bandol - Resist Death
Pumpkin Kasuga - Staggering Strike*
Pumpkin Teigu - Elusive Foe
Relowockee - Sharp Hearing
Sauria Battleheart - Wingstorm
Scorpinch - Virulent Poison
Scorpinch v2 - Virulent Poison
Scorpinch v3 - Virulent Poison
Shamash Yingshee - Staggering Strike*
Scordrake - Carapace Shield
Snowy Kamee - Chameleon Skin
Star Seraphent - Wingstorm
Sweetodd Dalma - Arterial Strike
Terminate Staigovald - Crush*
Terror Frightmare - Damaging Strike
Toffee Teigu - Elusive Foe
Undead Bandol - Resist Death
Verdure Yonyuu - Wingstorm
Barghest - Go Ethereal
Bludgeon Baskerville - Go Ethereal
Mauler Baskerville - Go Ethereal
Moor Baskerville - Go Ethereal
Pot O' Darkness - Go Ethereal
Pot O' Embers - Go Ethereal
Royal Baskerville - Go Ethereal
Scribblen - Go Ethereal
Beetanke - Carapace Shield
Chimerantula - Arterial Strike, Virulent Poison
Concept - Elusive Foe*
Temple - Stone Blood
Venom - Virulent Poison
Reaper - Diehard
Storm - Elusive Foe*
Bones - Resist Death
Skulls - Resist Death
Khalmar MK I - Constrict
Khalmar MK II - Constrict
Khalmar MK III - Constrict
Khalmar MK IV - Berserker*
Khalmar MK V - Constrict
Khalmar MK VI - Constrict, Stubborn Ferocity*
Custom Khalmar - Constrict
Fairy 'Gon - Wingstorm
Grim 'Gon - Stubborn Ferocity*
Placid 'Gon - Augment Healing
Primal 'Gon - Snatch and Snap*
Sailfin 'Gon - Stone Blood
Moonling - Go Ethereal
Adler Kuhna - Deadly Precision
Apokein Kuhna - Death Throes*
Assault Kuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Avia Kuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Battalion Kuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Bitter Kuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Blood Kuhna - Arterial Strike
Brick Kuhna - Berserker*, Stone Blood
Campaign Kuhna - Sonic Waves
Corpse Kuhna - Diehard, Resist Death
Destrei Kuhna - Damaging Strike
Disease Kuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Echo Kuhna - Go Ethereal, Sharp Hearing
Eclipse Kuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Freizein Kuhna - Final Blow
Ghastly Kuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Haunted Kuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Hinder Kuhna - Staggering Strike*
Hoarfrost Kuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Hyper Kuhna - Hyper Healing*
Infernal Kuhna - Berserker*
Kamikaze Kuhna - Death Throes*
Litchi Kuhna - Pollen Spores
Lykuhna - Berserker*
Merkuhna - Virulent Poison
Nightwalker Kuhna - Arterial Strike
Poison Kuhna - Virulent Poison
Preitor Kuhna - Go Ethereal
Reitcon Kuhna - Damaging Strike
Rejection Kuhna - Damaging Strike
Rinkuhna - Virulent Poison
Scare Kuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Sightless Kuhna - Sharp Hearing
Soundscape Kuhna - Sharp Hearing
Sour Kuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Tonji Kuhna - Chameleon Skin
Trench Kuhna - Foxhole
Trikuhna - Opportune Sneak Attack
Undead Kuhna - Diehard, Resist Death
Zombie Kuhna - Diehard, Resist Death
Batti - Sharp Hearing
Frightmare - Damaging Strike
Gyrophant - Crush
Kasuga - Staggering Strike*
Nyghtmare - Damaging Strike
Sahound - Sharp Hearing
Taosig - Berserker*, Stubborn Ferocity*
Tuskow - Stubborn Ferocity*
Yingshee - Staggering Strike*
Yonyuu - Wingstorm
Garudor - Wingstorm
Turkezilla - Berserker*
Battleheart - Wingstorm
Carpetfang - Constrict, Snatch, Virulent Poison
Kamee - Chameleon Skin
Staigovald - Crush*
Terratops - Crush*, Stubborn Ferocity*
Gorgeel - Snatch
Kalamarei - Foxhole*
Chernobyl - Virulent Poison
Xing Yun - Resist Death
Harbringer/Malice Wyrm - Constrict/Snatch and Snap*
Hisper - Snatch
Kuni - Foxhole
Obsidian Hisper - Constrict, Virulent Poison
Pumkit - Elusive Foe*

And finally, a list just for what has Spiked Body:
Sickle Experiments
Bleeders
Werecain
Hunters
Sparquills
Penticorns
Lucain
Merkuhna/Rinkuhna

What to keep/get rid of/change? Have at it! o uo
(If I have missed something, please tell me.)

[Shieba]

I sadly don't have enough time at the hospital comp to really look into this right now (or even the next few days), but I can skim over the list and quickly not what looks totally weird? o3o

Teigus - Elusive Foe (Is there any reason why Teigus should be super-hard to hit or something? It makes sense for a Leef, but a Teigu?)

Khalmar - Constrict (I doubt they're able to pull this off, seriously)

Storm - Elusive Foe (In the end, "Storm" is a marking. I understand that markings can kinda reflect personality, but for a pelt color to give such power to a Lucain - not exactly a small creature - seems kinda silly)

Yonyuus - Wingstorm (Are their wings really strong/big enough for that?)

I also think Spiked Body should be taken away from the following pets: Bleeders, Penticorns, Merkuhna/Rinkuhna. Their horns are simply not big enough to deal the damage touching a Sickle would deal. And even though I know I'll earn hate for it: It should be taken from Lucain as well. A Lucain just can't use the wingblades on his back good enough and the ones on the side are too small. Every other pet would just aim for their sides and never make any contact with the sharp parts.

I bet there is more, but I gotta go. =/

[Freezair]

I'm not sure how a Khalmar doesn't constrict. It means "To wrap up and squeeze," which is exactly what their tentacles can do.

[Zoophilos]

What Freezair said.  And while I agree that Bleeders, lucains, and penticorns aren't as spiky as the sickles or werecains, I don't think their spikes should be put entirely out of the equation.  Maybe less spiky critters can be given another trait - Partially Spiked Body - in which there's a, say, 50/50 chance their spikes won't hurt a striking opponent?

[Shieba]

I'm not sure how a Khalmar doesn't constrict. It means "To wrap up and squeeze," which is exactly what their tentacles can do.

Forget what I said. I forgot about the size requirement of Constrict - I mainly based my thoughts on thinking the Khalmars were too small to squeeze a lot of pets. I forgot they have to be two times larger anyway for the Trait to work. Makes it kinda useless on Khalmars, but since it's a given trait, it doesn't hurt. Yeah, leave it then.

[ToxicShadow]

Spiked Body - Merkuhna/Rinkuhna are based off of fish that not only have spines, the barbs are poisonous. While one may say that their spikes are too small to count, a Kuhna is small, and the spines cover most of the body. Most creatures couldn't dream of hitting a Kuhna without hitting their entire body, thus the spikes. Lucain wingblades are just that - blades that are like wings. Wings means they should be capable of moving them, they aren't stationary, and blades mean they are sharp and to be used as weapons. It doesn't seem out of the question that Lucain has spiked body. I can see why they could be taken away from Penticorns and Bleeders, because their spikes are so very tiny, but I also don't see why it is actually needed. Very few people have or fight with either of those species anyway.

And I'm pretty sure that Yonyuus are capable of flight if they so choose and, in such case, I would think they would be capable of Wingstorm.

Fightmares - All listed Frightmares have Damaging Strike, though Fear Frightmare isn't listed. I'm thinking that it may have been missed?

[GrayGriffin]

I also think Spiked Body should be taken away from the following pets: Bleeders, Penticorns, Merkuhna/Rinkuhna. Their horns are simply not big enough to deal the damage touching a Sickle would deal. And even though I know I'll earn hate for it: It should be taken from Lucain as well. A Lucain just can't use the wingblades on his back good enough and the ones on the side are too small. Every other pet would just aim for their sides and never make any contact with the sharp parts.

I bet there is more, but I gotta go. =/

Um, isn't the Thorn the only Penticorn that gets Spiked Body in the first place? I thought the point was that they were a personification of wilderness, so those markings on their body become actual thorny vines.