Kyrit wrote:I've been wanting to give this time, to let as many users give input as wanted, since ask Kreepy mentioned in the G&C section, it does often feel like if staff posts in a topic it just.. dies.
While there is truth to that, topics also die when there's just plain no staff input as well. Ideas will die when staff comes and says they're either not interested in the idea, or when they say it's very unlikely it'll get implemented. Because what's the point of members posting then? Staff said no. There is nothing left to discuss.
But if staff doesn't say
anything... it also looks like they're not interested? So why waste our time giving opinions and suggestions, like Krypto said in that other topic, when it looks like staff has no interest? It's also very hard for members to discuss and develop a feature without staff support. They don't necessarily know what can and can't be done in terms of staff work or abilities.
Kyrit wrote:I mentioned to Silver in the irc the other night when she asked if my replying to it was going to be positive or negative that it's more neutral ground. As a whole, I'm fine with this idea. I think it's great for those that are looking for feedback. My only concern is I'm not so sure it needs so many subforums. Instead the way I'd see it is a single forum (or two if people really badly want that Roleplay Listing area) and users just mention in the title of any thread they create what type of feedback (art, writing, ect) they are looking for. It'd avoid needing to make so many areas. [...]
So essentially, I'd like to hear if users absolutely want an area dedicated to just roleplay records [...]
My reasoning for the multiple subforums was so people knew where and what kind of critiques are being requested as a glance. I tend to prefer to be too organized than to have messes. That being said, it's not hard to make new areas, anyway? And it avoids getting swallowed and buried as well. And if we have only art, writing, and the RP listing, then that's just 3.
And I'm confused. Why do we need to want it
really badly? It doesn't need staff intervention, it doesn't need rules, it doesn't inspire flaming or rule-breaking. We have sections dedicated to Zoo Pens, we have sections dedicated to Wishlists, we have sections dedicated to wills, sections to records, sections to 'yourself' (All About You, which is honestly sort of really pointless and never being used). But I suggest a section for Roleplay Listings, RPs being
the core of Evelon... and people have to want it "
really badly"?
No one
really badly wanted to Outline Areas.
We thought it'd be nice.
No one
really badly wanted to Meet the Characters subforum.
We thought it'd be nice.
Put it under Zoo Pen. Put it under Important Documents. Put under All About You. But from my other topic, it sounds to me like people thought it was good idea. Many already keep their RPs in a list scattered throughout journals and Zoo Pens. To me, that's proof it'd be nice to have a section for it. Where you can post and describe what your RPs are about, information on it, things like that. Where you have a lot more space than just the one post that someone might have here, someone else over there. I've already said and I'll say it again: I'd love to read people's RPs now and again, but there's almost 15 sections for RPs, with pages, and many members each. Where do I start?
I'm not even asking for a section (i.e. Zoo Pens, All About You, Wishlists, etc.), I'm asking for a
subforum. And I'm suggesting it within the Feedback section because it ties in.
ToxxicRenegadeAngel wrote:And RL advice is a difficult subject, due to it's nature; if you want advice on a RL issue you can always PM another user that you feel comfortable discussing the matter with, or leave it in your journal for others to see and comment on in their journal as currently occurs.
Pickle wrote:Also, RL advice just generally seems like something... that people ask their close friends about, rather than posting it up for all to see and weigh in on.
Toxxic's point that I bolded is why I even thought of and brought up the suggestion of having a section dedicated to RL advice.
It's not unusual for members to post in their journal about what's happening to them. Phoenix has mentioned stuff about buying a car before. Nyxia's mentioned a lot of work problems. I talk about the things happening in my life. It's not unusual for members to post in their journals to share their problems.
The thing with journals is that not everyone reads them, and even then, it doesn't necessarily welcome comments or advice. What would the big difference be between someone posting in their journal saying "I don't know what to do. I need to buy this, but I'm just not sure where to start." where no one or barely anyone might be able to help; or them posting for advice and actually welcoming/asking for advice?
Not to mention, the fear of members giving false or erroneous advice can happen with or without the section. Someone can PM the person and tell them whatever they want, thinking they're right. If anything, having it in public ensures that, if the person
is telling the wrong information, someone can come along and correct them.
Maybe that's because I've been on many rat groups on FB, and if it hadn't been from people asking questions and seeking advice
in public on the internet, I wouldn't have learned and read what I know now, just a few months from owning my rats. Just from people asking, I know the meds they need, the things they're weak and prone to, what foods to avoid for them, toy ideas, even litter/baby advice should I ever fall into that pitfall.
It's no skin off my back if no one wants it. I'm just saying there was a certain logic to me suggesting it. Evelon is an extremely tight community; it's not massive like Reddit. So I hardly call putting my problems and my life situations on Evelon "putting them on the internet for everyone to see", as many (in general) like to call it.
Again. No skin off my back. Just saying there was logic to it.
If people want a single section, I approve implementing tags.
If there won't be any particularly close or tight supervision if the section is allowed for KS gain, I'm fine leaving it like that.
Pretty sure I touched on everything.